aries
08-07 07:35 PM
I came back on Sunday after landing with a expired visa but valid H1B till 2010
My family had valid visa till sept 07
So we donot need a valid stamped visa to come back. ? We can come back if we have H1 papers.Thanks for the respose.
My family had valid visa till sept 07
So we donot need a valid stamped visa to come back. ? We can come back if we have H1 papers.Thanks for the respose.
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getgc2008
07-31 12:32 PM
Yes my lawyer confirmed that I140 and I485 has to be filed at the same location.
PDOCT05
10-29 03:55 PM
Hi PDCOT05,
You should be OK, I am aware of same situation and they accepted the refiling.
Mine was reject due to "missing or incorrect fee" refiled on Oct 12, waiting. Strange part is we dont have any evidence of the original check. That makes it complicated..
Thanks for your info..and I wish you good luck. By any chance are you aware whether i need to send new fees or old fees? As a precaution I am going to sending the diff amount in a separate check.
You should be OK, I am aware of same situation and they accepted the refiling.
Mine was reject due to "missing or incorrect fee" refiled on Oct 12, waiting. Strange part is we dont have any evidence of the original check. That makes it complicated..
Thanks for your info..and I wish you good luck. By any chance are you aware whether i need to send new fees or old fees? As a precaution I am going to sending the diff amount in a separate check.
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02-14 05:51 PM
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vishwak
09-13 09:48 AM
There shouldn't be any Payroll at all.
Ask them not to run payroll until you get approved EAD. Having Payroll might create issues in future.
As her manager is helpful, tell them she will not work until she gets EAD approval.
Ask them not to run payroll until you get approved EAD. Having Payroll might create issues in future.
As her manager is helpful, tell them she will not work until she gets EAD approval.
jonty_11
07-24 12:19 PM
what abt ppl who are already contributing members...?
Poll doesnt cover them
Poll doesnt cover them
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ndswaiting
05-01 06:15 PM
I have been a silent follower of IV for more than a year but this is my first post so be kind :)
I am a full time employee. My 140 was approved in Jan 2008 and I am one of those who missed the July'07 fiasco (as you can see from my PD :().
I am being given an opportunity to join another team in my company. I do not want to impact the GC process but do not want to let go of this opportunity.
The other team is ready to replicate my roles and responsibilities as per my PERM and give me a similar title. My company lawyer believes that this would be the best approach and would not hamper my existing PERM and I140 and I would not have to restart my GC process.
I am reaching out to the collective knowledge base of the IV community for their insights/inputs/comments and red flags to watch out for.
Thanks in advance :)
I am a full time employee. My 140 was approved in Jan 2008 and I am one of those who missed the July'07 fiasco (as you can see from my PD :().
I am being given an opportunity to join another team in my company. I do not want to impact the GC process but do not want to let go of this opportunity.
The other team is ready to replicate my roles and responsibilities as per my PERM and give me a similar title. My company lawyer believes that this would be the best approach and would not hamper my existing PERM and I140 and I would not have to restart my GC process.
I am reaching out to the collective knowledge base of the IV community for their insights/inputs/comments and red flags to watch out for.
Thanks in advance :)
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walker15
03-17 10:15 PM
Hi lavanyamohan and mhtahim,
Many of my friends utilized Mr.Gowda for H1B and GC. All my friends & hundreds in the same firm got GC'S without any querries.
Frankly speaking I do not have any personal relations with the company.
I used his services and felt exactly what mhtahim mentioned about Gowda. He is reasonable and professional.
All the best
Many of my friends utilized Mr.Gowda for H1B and GC. All my friends & hundreds in the same firm got GC'S without any querries.
Frankly speaking I do not have any personal relations with the company.
I used his services and felt exactly what mhtahim mentioned about Gowda. He is reasonable and professional.
All the best
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aroranuj
09-09 11:20 AM
Hello Everyone,
It is time that we need to unite as one�no EB1 or EB2 or EB3. This is our last real chance in a long time to come to address our BIGGEST issue. The Full House Judiciary Committee will do a Mark-Up of EB Visa Recapture Bill and Nursing Relief Bill on 09/10/2008 10:15 a.m. We need to call ALL these members listed below and ask them to support. Please write in your responses with how many reps you have been able to call. We need to keep this thread on top. The information provided below has been taken from the Administrators post about the HR5882.
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BACKGROUND & TALKING POINTS
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HR5882 was sponsored by Congresswoman Lofgren and Congressman Sensenbrenner. This bill recaptures all the unused visa numbers that have been lost since 1992 due to processing delays in Employment based category and Family category. This bill has PASSED the Sub Committee and is in its next phase. After it passes here it will to the full house
Please use the instructions provided below to make the phone calls.
(1) Call the congressman/woman office and request to speak with the aide who handles Legislative and Immigration matters
2) If they are not available leave a VM for them -
"I would like Representative "Representative Name" to support HR 5882, bill to recapture the green cards lost due to processing and bureaucratic delays. As you may already know that this is a bi-partisan bill with wide bipartisan support in the house and will help improve American competitiveness & reduce the back logs associated with USCIS. This bill is non controversial measures that will help US to stay competitive with a highly educated and skilled work force and address family based backlogs also.
To All congress-critters:
In a nutshell, this bill allows USCIS to manage their workflow more effectively, which provides better customer service, and will eventually lead to better turn-around times.
To Democrats: More people will be able to get their citizenship in reasonable times.
To Republicans: Companies will be able to attract more talent which improves economic performance."
(3) As usual Do NOT get into the CIR issue or illegal Immigration. If the aide is confusing with CIR or illegal immigration, just tell them that these are legal immigration bills.
(4) If the aide asks whether you belong to the district or not, tell them NO if you don't. Mention to them that you already spoke with your representative and would like the congressman/congresswoman
support.
The list of key representatives along with their contact information is provided in this post.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If asked please say that you are a member of Immigration Voice.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the staffer ask - "did you call the representative in your area", say that -
"Yes I did. Congressman/Congresswoman is a prominent member of House Judiciary committee which makes him a national figure of great importance. Congressman's decision and support is very important for people inside and outside of your district and as such I urge you and the Congressman to support HR5882."
Democrats
Zoe Lofgren, California (202) 225-3072
Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas (202) 225-3816
Maxine Waters, California (202) 225-2201
Bill Delahunt, Massachusetts (202)-225-3111
Robert Wexler, Florida (202) 225-3001
Linda T. S�nchez, California (202) 225-6676
Steve Cohen, Tennessee (202) 225-3265
Hank Johnson, Georgia (202) 225-1605
Betty Sutton, Ohio (202) 225-3401
Luis Gutierrez, Illinois (202) 225-8203
Brad Sherman, California (202) 225-5911
Anthony D. Weiner, New York (202) 225-6616
Adam B. Schiff, California (202) 225-4176
Artur Davis, Alabama (202) 225-2665
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, FL (202) 225-7931
Keith Ellison, Minnesota (202) 225-4755
Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin (202) 225-2906
Republicans
Lamar S. Smith, Texas (202) 225-4236
Jim Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin (202) 225-5101
Howard Coble, North Carolina (202) 225-3065
Elton Gallegly, California (202) 225-5811
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia (202) 225-5431
Steve Chabot, Ohio (202) 225-2216
Dan Lungren, California (202) 225-5716
Chris Cannon, Utah (202) 225-7751
Ric Keller, Florida (202) 225-2176
Darrell Issa, California (202) 225-3906
Mike Pence, Indiana (202) 225-3021
Randy Forbes, Virginia (202) 225-6365
Steve King, Iowa DO NOT CONTACT
Tom Feeney, Florida (202) 225-2706
Trent Franks, Arizona (202) 225-4576
Louie Gohmert, Texas (202) 225-3035
Jim Jordan, Ohio (202) 225-2676
It is time that we need to unite as one�no EB1 or EB2 or EB3. This is our last real chance in a long time to come to address our BIGGEST issue. The Full House Judiciary Committee will do a Mark-Up of EB Visa Recapture Bill and Nursing Relief Bill on 09/10/2008 10:15 a.m. We need to call ALL these members listed below and ask them to support. Please write in your responses with how many reps you have been able to call. We need to keep this thread on top. The information provided below has been taken from the Administrators post about the HR5882.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BACKGROUND & TALKING POINTS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
HR5882 was sponsored by Congresswoman Lofgren and Congressman Sensenbrenner. This bill recaptures all the unused visa numbers that have been lost since 1992 due to processing delays in Employment based category and Family category. This bill has PASSED the Sub Committee and is in its next phase. After it passes here it will to the full house
Please use the instructions provided below to make the phone calls.
(1) Call the congressman/woman office and request to speak with the aide who handles Legislative and Immigration matters
2) If they are not available leave a VM for them -
"I would like Representative "Representative Name" to support HR 5882, bill to recapture the green cards lost due to processing and bureaucratic delays. As you may already know that this is a bi-partisan bill with wide bipartisan support in the house and will help improve American competitiveness & reduce the back logs associated with USCIS. This bill is non controversial measures that will help US to stay competitive with a highly educated and skilled work force and address family based backlogs also.
To All congress-critters:
In a nutshell, this bill allows USCIS to manage their workflow more effectively, which provides better customer service, and will eventually lead to better turn-around times.
To Democrats: More people will be able to get their citizenship in reasonable times.
To Republicans: Companies will be able to attract more talent which improves economic performance."
(3) As usual Do NOT get into the CIR issue or illegal Immigration. If the aide is confusing with CIR or illegal immigration, just tell them that these are legal immigration bills.
(4) If the aide asks whether you belong to the district or not, tell them NO if you don't. Mention to them that you already spoke with your representative and would like the congressman/congresswoman
support.
The list of key representatives along with their contact information is provided in this post.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
If asked please say that you are a member of Immigration Voice.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the staffer ask - "did you call the representative in your area", say that -
"Yes I did. Congressman/Congresswoman is a prominent member of House Judiciary committee which makes him a national figure of great importance. Congressman's decision and support is very important for people inside and outside of your district and as such I urge you and the Congressman to support HR5882."
Democrats
Zoe Lofgren, California (202) 225-3072
Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas (202) 225-3816
Maxine Waters, California (202) 225-2201
Bill Delahunt, Massachusetts (202)-225-3111
Robert Wexler, Florida (202) 225-3001
Linda T. S�nchez, California (202) 225-6676
Steve Cohen, Tennessee (202) 225-3265
Hank Johnson, Georgia (202) 225-1605
Betty Sutton, Ohio (202) 225-3401
Luis Gutierrez, Illinois (202) 225-8203
Brad Sherman, California (202) 225-5911
Anthony D. Weiner, New York (202) 225-6616
Adam B. Schiff, California (202) 225-4176
Artur Davis, Alabama (202) 225-2665
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, FL (202) 225-7931
Keith Ellison, Minnesota (202) 225-4755
Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin (202) 225-2906
Republicans
Lamar S. Smith, Texas (202) 225-4236
Jim Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin (202) 225-5101
Howard Coble, North Carolina (202) 225-3065
Elton Gallegly, California (202) 225-5811
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia (202) 225-5431
Steve Chabot, Ohio (202) 225-2216
Dan Lungren, California (202) 225-5716
Chris Cannon, Utah (202) 225-7751
Ric Keller, Florida (202) 225-2176
Darrell Issa, California (202) 225-3906
Mike Pence, Indiana (202) 225-3021
Randy Forbes, Virginia (202) 225-6365
Steve King, Iowa DO NOT CONTACT
Tom Feeney, Florida (202) 225-2706
Trent Franks, Arizona (202) 225-4576
Louie Gohmert, Texas (202) 225-3035
Jim Jordan, Ohio (202) 225-2676
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optimist578
02-12 01:48 PM
Currently its taking the same amount of time at both Nebraska & Texas service centers.
https://egov.immigration.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
https://egov.immigration.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=NSC
My regular I-140 case took Nov - Feb at NSC.
https://egov.immigration.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
https://egov.immigration.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=NSC
My regular I-140 case took Nov - Feb at NSC.
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ayaskant
01-31 11:08 PM
Hi,
I came to US on h1b in 2007.
I got my labor substituted in 2007 in EB3. My priority date is December 2004.
I got my 140 approved in january 2008. Its been 2 yrs since.
I dont have EAD.
I dont know when the date will be current. But the problem is,
My client wants me to join their company. Can I leave my current company and still maintain my priority date. Do h1b companies normally cancel the i140 if employees leave.
if i join the new company I am planning to start GC in EB2 again. Is it wise to do so. Can I port my Priority date. Or should I stick onto my existing employer.
How much time its taking now a days to get the Labor and 140 in EB2.
ANy help and advice in this regards will be very much appreciated
ak
I came to US on h1b in 2007.
I got my labor substituted in 2007 in EB3. My priority date is December 2004.
I got my 140 approved in january 2008. Its been 2 yrs since.
I dont have EAD.
I dont know when the date will be current. But the problem is,
My client wants me to join their company. Can I leave my current company and still maintain my priority date. Do h1b companies normally cancel the i140 if employees leave.
if i join the new company I am planning to start GC in EB2 again. Is it wise to do so. Can I port my Priority date. Or should I stick onto my existing employer.
How much time its taking now a days to get the Labor and 140 in EB2.
ANy help and advice in this regards will be very much appreciated
ak
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java4yogi
09-04 12:32 PM
We do have the licence and bank accounts based on the h4 status.
My main question was when we can apply for SSN if the employee is right now in US on H4 visa and Change of Status to H1 is approved. Whether the SSN can be applied before Oct 1 is the main thing !
Thanks for the replies though, might help others in the same boat :)
My main question was when we can apply for SSN if the employee is right now in US on H4 visa and Change of Status to H1 is approved. Whether the SSN can be applied before Oct 1 is the main thing !
Thanks for the replies though, might help others in the same boat :)
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fromnaija
02-17 05:19 PM
I was wondering the same thing. On other hand, I don't remember exactly where, read that as USCIS has updated their software, hence, FP's will not be required again. I may be wrong here, I myself, am interested to know if I need to follow up with USCIS after my jul-07 filing.
GCCovet
That is the Biometric Storage System. I have posted some information about this a while back. You may read more here:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=266590&postcount=8
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_cis_bss.pdf
GCCovet
That is the Biometric Storage System. I have posted some information about this a while back. You may read more here:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=266590&postcount=8
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_cis_bss.pdf
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NELLAIKUMAR
08-14 11:20 PM
I feel that getting the EAD will give us more flexibility to survive in this economic condition as well as eligibility for spouse to work.
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04-18 06:27 PM
Added another stamp - see first post.
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kondur_007
02-17 04:20 PM
If you have a viable option: go for it.
Here is the math:
PERM: 1 year
I 140: 3 weeks with PP and 2-3 months without
I 485: 2 months
So you can potentially get your GC in lest than 15 months.
EB3 is not very predictable as many of the old cases are either through CP or at local offices (not accounted for in USCIS statistics). It may become current in above time frame; but if you do have a good option of going for EB2, it will be certain. So if I were to be you, I would seriously consider it.
Good Luck.
Here is the math:
PERM: 1 year
I 140: 3 weeks with PP and 2-3 months without
I 485: 2 months
So you can potentially get your GC in lest than 15 months.
EB3 is not very predictable as many of the old cases are either through CP or at local offices (not accounted for in USCIS statistics). It may become current in above time frame; but if you do have a good option of going for EB2, it will be certain. So if I were to be you, I would seriously consider it.
Good Luck.
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gcdreamer05
09-19 12:39 PM
If I go for appointment and they put case under PIMS review as I just got ext approval last months. Will they take passport with them ? if Not can I travel with passport and ask to close case of stamping ?
I read in IV forums that few ppl had sent their 797 copy to kentucky center asking to check in to PIMS, you ca ntry that.
Ya they will take ur passport, if you request to release you need to basically cancel stamping and use ur EAD/AP to enter back but that will make you in to parolee status.
Please do post your experience after you go for stamping.
I read in IV forums that few ppl had sent their 797 copy to kentucky center asking to check in to PIMS, you ca ntry that.
Ya they will take ur passport, if you request to release you need to basically cancel stamping and use ur EAD/AP to enter back but that will make you in to parolee status.
Please do post your experience after you go for stamping.
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ajay
01-26 11:41 AM
I am planning to move to different residence. My 485 application is currently pending.
Has anyone successfully filed change of address form? and have their EAD or other documents deliever to their new address correctly. Reason I am asking my friend changed his residence while his 485 pending and all his document would still come to my address (his old address). He made numerous request to USCIS and files for AR11 etc. His all documents EAD.. even Green card also came back to my address(His old adress). At least he was lucky that I was still staying over there.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
You can do it online by going to https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=coa, from where you can select Change your address online at the bottom of the screen.
I did it and am getting all correspondences from the time I changed to my new address.
Has anyone successfully filed change of address form? and have their EAD or other documents deliever to their new address correctly. Reason I am asking my friend changed his residence while his 485 pending and all his document would still come to my address (his old address). He made numerous request to USCIS and files for AR11 etc. His all documents EAD.. even Green card also came back to my address(His old adress). At least he was lucky that I was still staying over there.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
You can do it online by going to https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=coa, from where you can select Change your address online at the bottom of the screen.
I did it and am getting all correspondences from the time I changed to my new address.
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thakkarbhav
11-17 01:10 PM
Yes but sometimes if your H1B approval take more time then you can take H1B receipt to get few months extension.
MatsP
November 9th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Hi Mandy, and welcome to Dphoto.
The choice of DSLR's is not an easy one.
By all accounts, the Digital Rebel/300D is an excellent camera.
So is the Olympus, as far as I know.
The Canon will give you a greater selection of lenses.
There's also another great choice in the Nikon D70.
Why would one be better than the other? Depends on what you want, really. All of them take good photos.
Canon probably have THE best selection of lenses, all the way from cheap-n-cheerful to expen$ive professional level where a single lens will break your budget several times over. There's also a good selection of other accessories, such as a number of flash-guns, and other bits and pieces.
At $779.95 (after rebate) from B&H Photo (this is not an endorsement), it leaves you with a small lump of money to extend the kit, or spare cash for your trip.
The big advantage on the Nikon D70 compared to Canon would be it's ability to take more fast shots in a row. That would be useful if you're after snapping sports/action shots, but if you just want to take a few shots of beutiful land/streetscapes, your friends/family and the odd young one having a go at baseball, it's not really an advantage as such. There may be some other features that I don't know about, but I would think those differences are minor. On the other hand, it's a little bit out of your budget.
The big advantage on Olympus side is the smaller form-factor for the lenses. I'm pretty sure that Olympus would want it to stay, and it's very unlikely to disappear in the next few years. If anything, it's most likely a forward path, but who knows... I'm pretty sure both Canon and Nikon are watching carefully.
I own the EOS 10D, because I wanted the sports ability, which is slightly better on the 10D compared to the Digital Rebel. But I was locked into Canon from owning a fair amount of lenses that would cost MUCH more than the cost of the camera body to replace. I've been "collecting" those lenses for some time. And to sell used lenses to buy similar ones from another brand gets pretty expensive, so once you've selected a brand, you need a much bigger advantage from another brand to switch.
That doesn't apply when the photographer gets paid for the pictures taken, especially since the equipment in this case often gets quite a bit of (accidental) abuse, and needs replacing with much shorter intervals than the amateurs would anyway. This is why Canon pretty much won overnight on the transition to Autofocus. Canon had a better solution than Nikon, but they also "forced" a change of lenses. The professionals jumped on the Canon system because it gave them a small advantage of getting a better shot, even if they used to have a Nikon before they changed over].
Anyway, I'm not sure this is much help, but perhaps gives you a few pointers in the right direction.
Also, I would advice that you get the camera at least a few weeks before you go on vacation, so that you can get used to the camera.
--
Mats
The choice of DSLR's is not an easy one.
By all accounts, the Digital Rebel/300D is an excellent camera.
So is the Olympus, as far as I know.
The Canon will give you a greater selection of lenses.
There's also another great choice in the Nikon D70.
Why would one be better than the other? Depends on what you want, really. All of them take good photos.
Canon probably have THE best selection of lenses, all the way from cheap-n-cheerful to expen$ive professional level where a single lens will break your budget several times over. There's also a good selection of other accessories, such as a number of flash-guns, and other bits and pieces.
At $779.95 (after rebate) from B&H Photo (this is not an endorsement), it leaves you with a small lump of money to extend the kit, or spare cash for your trip.
The big advantage on the Nikon D70 compared to Canon would be it's ability to take more fast shots in a row. That would be useful if you're after snapping sports/action shots, but if you just want to take a few shots of beutiful land/streetscapes, your friends/family and the odd young one having a go at baseball, it's not really an advantage as such. There may be some other features that I don't know about, but I would think those differences are minor. On the other hand, it's a little bit out of your budget.
The big advantage on Olympus side is the smaller form-factor for the lenses. I'm pretty sure that Olympus would want it to stay, and it's very unlikely to disappear in the next few years. If anything, it's most likely a forward path, but who knows... I'm pretty sure both Canon and Nikon are watching carefully.
I own the EOS 10D, because I wanted the sports ability, which is slightly better on the 10D compared to the Digital Rebel. But I was locked into Canon from owning a fair amount of lenses that would cost MUCH more than the cost of the camera body to replace. I've been "collecting" those lenses for some time. And to sell used lenses to buy similar ones from another brand gets pretty expensive, so once you've selected a brand, you need a much bigger advantage from another brand to switch.
That doesn't apply when the photographer gets paid for the pictures taken, especially since the equipment in this case often gets quite a bit of (accidental) abuse, and needs replacing with much shorter intervals than the amateurs would anyway. This is why Canon pretty much won overnight on the transition to Autofocus. Canon had a better solution than Nikon, but they also "forced" a change of lenses. The professionals jumped on the Canon system because it gave them a small advantage of getting a better shot, even if they used to have a Nikon before they changed over].
Anyway, I'm not sure this is much help, but perhaps gives you a few pointers in the right direction.
Also, I would advice that you get the camera at least a few weeks before you go on vacation, so that you can get used to the camera.
--
Mats
ragz4u
03-08 09:48 PM
There is no posted transcript yet on the Website - how did it go?
As expected, Lou Dobbs was absolutely anti-immigration, while Specter was his usual no-nonsense self. Nothing interesting at all
This is available at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/08/ldt.01.html
DOBBS: It has already declared a state of emergency because of the crisis at the border between Arizona and Mexico as has another Democrat, Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico.
By our estimates, there are as many as 20 million illegal aliens now in this country. Three million illegal aliens cross the border every year. The U.S. Senate is now considering three different bills on border security and illegal immigration.
All share a common theme, creating so-called guest worker programs. Senator Arlen Specter is the author of one of the bills. He joins us tonight from Capitol Hill. Senator Specter of course the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee. Senator, good to have you here.
SEN. ARLEN SPECTER, (R-PA) JUDICIARY CMTE. CHAIRMAN: Thank you for the invitation, Lou.
DOBBS: Senator, you're in markup. How did it go today? Are you near completion?
SPECTER: Well, we are really just getting started. We have scheduled four markups. The leader would like to bring the bill to the floor by March 27th. We're going to try to do that but we're not going to rush it. We're going to take the time we need to go through the issues thoroughly and come to a balanced judgment.
DOBBS: Senator Hillary Clinton today spoke out on U.S. immigration policy. She said Congressman Sensenbrenner's immigration bill, which passed the House as you know, and is now in the House Judiciary Committee, would be, quote, an unworkable scheme to try to deport 11 million people, which you have to have a police state to try to do. How do you react to her comments?
SPECTER: Well, I think we need border security. And the House passed bill goes a long way in that direction and I think that's an important aspect that has to be balanced.
I think when you have 11 million or more undocumented aliens, you have to find a way to bring them out of shadows. At the same time, you do not want to reward people who have broken the laws. So we do not want amnesty program. And my job as chairman is to hear all points of view, to analyze them thoroughly, to discuss them and to see if we can't find a way to bring people out of the shadows, not necessarily put them in line for citizenship, but to try to eliminate having them in a fugitive status.
And if they want to become citizens, to go through the processes which comport with the law.
DOBBS: Senator, when you say in the shadows, this is the language of lot of, frankly, a lot of pro-illegal immigration and open border's advocates, as I think you know.
They're seldom if the shadows as we look at Home Depots, where we see day laborer, aggregating. They make up about 20 percent, by most estimates, of the labor working in construction. They make up just about half, if not more, of all farm labor as you know in this country. We do not know precisely how many people here. Estimates as I reported earlier ranges high as 20 million. You have used a number of 11 million.
How is it that the United States government does not know nor do we have a way, as far as I know in the United States government, the federal government, to come up with a count of how many people we're talking about? And isn't that important as we apply your efforts at coming to compromise and conciliation? SPECTER: Well, it would be very, very helpful, Lou, if we knew precisely how many undocumented aliens, illegal aliens, were in the country if we knew where they were. When you talk about the shadows, if you have a program which says we're going to ferret them out, we're going to arrest them, we're going to deport them all.
Maybe the shadow's is a bad expression. Maybe a better expression would be that would turn them into fugitives. What we want to do is to try to find some way to get our hand on the problem.
We know that they take a lot of jobs where others don't want to take them. At the same time, we are aware of the fact that they depress salaries downward if they weren't available. They would be more compensation. We're juggling a lot of balls at the same time and nobody has tackled this problem for a long time and it's been thrust upon the Judiciary Committee and we're going to try to deal with it.
DOBBS: Well, Senator, we all wish you luck on that and the idea that the president likes to use the expression, willing workers and willing employers. In this case they're illegal employers and they're illegal aliens that are being exploited and it's not certainly the kind of thing I would -- certainly knowing your background, know that you would like to see continue. And I'll just throw in one pitch to you, Senator, if I may.
SPECTER: Sure.
DOBBS: Why don't you punish, punish, punish, illegal employers because they're exploiting people a way that is so un-American and is, frankly, doesn't reflect well on us and for people to defend it is, to me, unspeakable.
SPECTER: As you may know before I became a senator, I was a district attorney, a prosecutor. A big part of my job at that time was to punish them and I think when people violate the law, we ought to bring them into compliance, and a punishment is a part of it. I know how to do that.
DOBBS: Indeed you do. And Mr. Chairman, it's good to have you with us. Senator Arlen Specter.
As expected, Lou Dobbs was absolutely anti-immigration, while Specter was his usual no-nonsense self. Nothing interesting at all
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DOBBS: It has already declared a state of emergency because of the crisis at the border between Arizona and Mexico as has another Democrat, Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico.
By our estimates, there are as many as 20 million illegal aliens now in this country. Three million illegal aliens cross the border every year. The U.S. Senate is now considering three different bills on border security and illegal immigration.
All share a common theme, creating so-called guest worker programs. Senator Arlen Specter is the author of one of the bills. He joins us tonight from Capitol Hill. Senator Specter of course the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee. Senator, good to have you here.
SEN. ARLEN SPECTER, (R-PA) JUDICIARY CMTE. CHAIRMAN: Thank you for the invitation, Lou.
DOBBS: Senator, you're in markup. How did it go today? Are you near completion?
SPECTER: Well, we are really just getting started. We have scheduled four markups. The leader would like to bring the bill to the floor by March 27th. We're going to try to do that but we're not going to rush it. We're going to take the time we need to go through the issues thoroughly and come to a balanced judgment.
DOBBS: Senator Hillary Clinton today spoke out on U.S. immigration policy. She said Congressman Sensenbrenner's immigration bill, which passed the House as you know, and is now in the House Judiciary Committee, would be, quote, an unworkable scheme to try to deport 11 million people, which you have to have a police state to try to do. How do you react to her comments?
SPECTER: Well, I think we need border security. And the House passed bill goes a long way in that direction and I think that's an important aspect that has to be balanced.
I think when you have 11 million or more undocumented aliens, you have to find a way to bring them out of shadows. At the same time, you do not want to reward people who have broken the laws. So we do not want amnesty program. And my job as chairman is to hear all points of view, to analyze them thoroughly, to discuss them and to see if we can't find a way to bring people out of the shadows, not necessarily put them in line for citizenship, but to try to eliminate having them in a fugitive status.
And if they want to become citizens, to go through the processes which comport with the law.
DOBBS: Senator, when you say in the shadows, this is the language of lot of, frankly, a lot of pro-illegal immigration and open border's advocates, as I think you know.
They're seldom if the shadows as we look at Home Depots, where we see day laborer, aggregating. They make up about 20 percent, by most estimates, of the labor working in construction. They make up just about half, if not more, of all farm labor as you know in this country. We do not know precisely how many people here. Estimates as I reported earlier ranges high as 20 million. You have used a number of 11 million.
How is it that the United States government does not know nor do we have a way, as far as I know in the United States government, the federal government, to come up with a count of how many people we're talking about? And isn't that important as we apply your efforts at coming to compromise and conciliation? SPECTER: Well, it would be very, very helpful, Lou, if we knew precisely how many undocumented aliens, illegal aliens, were in the country if we knew where they were. When you talk about the shadows, if you have a program which says we're going to ferret them out, we're going to arrest them, we're going to deport them all.
Maybe the shadow's is a bad expression. Maybe a better expression would be that would turn them into fugitives. What we want to do is to try to find some way to get our hand on the problem.
We know that they take a lot of jobs where others don't want to take them. At the same time, we are aware of the fact that they depress salaries downward if they weren't available. They would be more compensation. We're juggling a lot of balls at the same time and nobody has tackled this problem for a long time and it's been thrust upon the Judiciary Committee and we're going to try to deal with it.
DOBBS: Well, Senator, we all wish you luck on that and the idea that the president likes to use the expression, willing workers and willing employers. In this case they're illegal employers and they're illegal aliens that are being exploited and it's not certainly the kind of thing I would -- certainly knowing your background, know that you would like to see continue. And I'll just throw in one pitch to you, Senator, if I may.
SPECTER: Sure.
DOBBS: Why don't you punish, punish, punish, illegal employers because they're exploiting people a way that is so un-American and is, frankly, doesn't reflect well on us and for people to defend it is, to me, unspeakable.
SPECTER: As you may know before I became a senator, I was a district attorney, a prosecutor. A big part of my job at that time was to punish them and I think when people violate the law, we ought to bring them into compliance, and a punishment is a part of it. I know how to do that.
DOBBS: Indeed you do. And Mr. Chairman, it's good to have you with us. Senator Arlen Specter.
